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Dolce and Namak

LOLs! I find the zip.ca rating system absolutely silly. Happily, most of the time I only rent movies from them that I know I would not want to pay money for. So they mostly end up with a 1 star (or 2 at best) rating.

But to help with your problem, how about you add points and subtract points and then use the result? It's not reflective of how you feel about each part of the movie, but it's probably a decent result overall.

And if you're worried about your responsibilty in encouraging or discouraging people from renting a film, think of this: Dhoom 2, Eklavya, Life in a Metro, Mujhse Dosti Karoge and Omkara, all have the same rating: 3 stars and a smudge on the fourth. I rest my case :)

katherine

Heh heh -- mostly it comes down to some kind of weird moral responsibility I feel when it comes to the film. Interesting to note how those other films have been rated.

I find my reaction to the film kind of intriguing, that I actually really like it and actively dislike it all at the same time. It's like some filmi schizophrenia.

I actually like renting from Zip to get access to French, HK, and Japanese movies, I rarely take Hindi ones from them, but it was the only way I was going to see a few of them in time for Deol Dhamaka :-)

dustdevil liz

Does zip.ca have a specified rental period? One of the big pluses of ?Netflix is that you can hold onto the movies however long you want. (I've been trying to get myself to watch the 1955 Devdas for the last 3 months.) Of course, then there' the moral question of whether you are keeping someone else from watching that film.

katherine

@Liz The plan I'm with at Zip requires me to return a DVD before they'll send me a new one, and I was already well into my rental period for two new films that I risked not getting anything this month, and wasting my rentals :-)

On the up side, I do need to do some research and reading before I watch the film again, so I can choose to put it back on my list when I've done with that, and get it out again. Unless, of course, I get a copy myself first. I just thought it was curious that it was the first time I found myself truly unable to rate a film without feeling the need to attach a justification to the rating.

Ness

I would have hit 3. For "ambivalent". To get the points. Be mercenary. It's a rental service, not set up for the subtleties of human thought and emotion and...you know. Etc.

Plus, actually, anyway, the two or three films we disagree on has seemingly increased dramatically over Deol Dhamaka. It's SUNNY. We cannot agree when it comes to him. Because I found whatever there is to dislike in Gadar outweighed what there is to like, for me, personally.

katherine

@ness Mostly I meant this as kind of amusing, since I stared at the choices and felt none of them applied to the film. It's humour, though perhaps I'm not terribly good at expressing that.

I don't think we disagree that the film packs a thoroughly disagreeable punch in the second half. I don't mean to say that what I love about the film absolves it for me, because it doesn't. I wouldn't be recommending the film to anyone except those with an interest in how Partition as been portrayed on the screen. And if I argue that I can understand where that second-half sentiment comes from, its historical or social underpinnings, that also doesn't meant I, personally, think it's *right* -- as you might remember from Twitter, I was sort of horrified at the second half of the film.

But I still want to understand where the film is coming from, especially when it's a film that did so well at the box office and that some people actually like. The Zip stats may mean absolutely nothing, but they may also mean that people actually do like the film, and I want to try to understand that. And on one level, I do understand, because I do like the first half of the film. I don't see this as a case of black or white, I see a lot of grey shades when I think about this film.

And if you're suggesting I cannot be objective when it comes to Sunny, all I can say is, I can't stand his performance in the second half of the film, he's a caricature too, and he acts like one. I can't stand the very graphic violence, and I can't stand the fact that he wanted to be in the film with that second half and its messages.

But that doesn't take away from the fact that he's lovely in the first half, as is Amisha, as is the turban scene. Shades of grey.

katherine

Sigh. And if that last comment is riddled with spelling mistakes, it's because I'm on Day Three of dealing with vertigo, and can't focus properly on the screen and keep making mistakes cos I'm dizzy.

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